Josh McDaniels: I'm not Bill Belichick and I can't be, I'm just going to be myself - ProFootballTalk

2022-05-28 12:37:38 By : Ms. sunny wang

New Raiders coach Josh McDaniels owes much of his career to Bill Belichick, who was his boss in New England for a total of 18 years over two stints with the Patriots. But McDaniels says that he knows he can’t run his team the exact same way that Belichick has run the Patriots for more than two decades.

“I’m not Bill [Belichick] and I can’t be. I’m just going to try to be myself and hopefully I can be a good leader for our team,” McDaniels said.

This is McDaniels’ second head-coaching job. The first one, in Denver, did not go well, and he was fired midway through his second season. McDaniels said he’s been waiting for the right fit to become a head coach again.

“I’ve been looking forward to an opportunity like this for a couple years now and I’m so blessed to have the staff that we have and the group that we have working, and the support staff that we have around me,” said McDaniels. “They make my job easy. I’m just trying to keep us on schedule and on time and those kind of things, but I couldn’t say enough things about the staff here. The strength and conditioning guys, the trainers, the equipment people that make this thing go – they do a tremendous job. Then our coaching staff is doing a great job. They’re here real early, they’re here late at night making sure all the information is prepared. I feel like I’ve learned a lot. I feel like it’s slowed down for me, for sure. Doesn’t mean anything at this point in time of the year, doesn’t have any bearing on what’s going to happen down the road, but definitely feel a comfort level now in terms of understanding what my role is and how to do it better.”

Belichick’s assistants have not had a great track record as head coaches, and that includes McDaniels in Denver. He’s hoping that Las Vegas will be different, even as he differentiates himself from Belichick.

Once again acting the immature punk he always has been. Sorry LV this isn’t going to work.

I don’t care what anybody says. Go back and look at the drafts and acquisitions he made. John Elway gets all the credit, but McDaniels helped shape that little Broncos dynasty more than people seem to want to acknowledge. It didn’t show under him, but some of his head scratching moves worked out. Here’s hoping a little hindsight and a lot of maturing produces better results while he’s got the reigns. I’ll be rooting for him this time around.

As long as he doesn’t trade both Carr and Adams Week 1 he’ll be fine.

“Belichick’s assistants have not had a great track record as head coaches, and that includes McDaniels in Denver.”

I guess you can also point out that Belichick doesn’t have a great record as a head coach without Brady. Belichick is 70-79 overall without Brady and 29-58 against teams with a . 500 winning percentage or better.

With the West being as stacked as it is, he will be gone in under 3 years.

That is exactly what Bill Belichick would have said.

Just remember to put the drain plug in before you launch the boat this time fool.

I’ll laugh if McDaniels gets Kaepernick signed and plays.

Same McDaniels that drafted Tebow in the first round so if anyone would do that it’s him. Lol

This argument of Belichick needing Brady is way overdone. The first 3 Super Bowls the Patriot’s won Brady was not the polished Brady of recent years. And Belichick taught and met extensively with Brady every week to mold him into the winning QB he became.

McDaniels “being himself” worked out great for Denver and Indianapolis.

zandrew says: May 27, 2022 at 1:48 pm This argument of Belichick needing Brady is way overdone. The first 3 Super Bowls the Patriot’s won Brady was not the polished Brady of recent years. And Belichick taught and met extensively with Brady every week to mold him into the winning QB he became. ————————- Brady has won everywhere he’s played including a Superbowl without B.B. Bill, not so much.

With the cheap squad Belichick gave to Brady, especially the squad before, no other QB would be able to do what Brady did, like scoring 24 or more in back to back playoff games.

So no SB for Patriots with any other QB, no matter how much credits you want to give to Belichick.

A Belichick assistant is the most successful college coach in history. So let’s give him some credit.

I hope JM does well in LV. I will, however, never forget the belly laugh of seeing him in Denver with the cut off sleeves, ala BB.

buffalobluecollarlunchbucket56 says: May 27, 2022 at 2:09 pm zandrew says: May 27, 2022 at 1:48 pm This argument of Belichick needing Brady is way overdone. The first 3 Super Bowls the Patriot’s won Brady was not the polished Brady of recent years. And Belichick taught and met extensively with Brady every week to mold him into the winning QB he became. ————————- Brady has won everywhere he’s played including a Superbowl without B.B. Bill, not so much.

————— Belichick won two Super Bowls with the Giants as a DC. His game plan for the game against the Bills is in the HOF. As a head coach he built a staff that became the Ravens, a team that was competing at the highest level for 20 years. BB was responsible for a trade down that became the Ray Lewis pick.

Yes, Belichick lost some games in Cleveland, but he really built a great foundation that continued for a long time.

In 2000 when he came to NE he did the same thing.

Would he have won any of the Super Bowls without Brady? Who knows. It obviously is very important to have an elite QB to win even 1 Super Bowl and to win many you have to have the very best QB. Brady was an essential part. However, so were the other 52 guys. Brady would not be Brady without Drafting Gronk and developing Edeleman for example. Brady is still with Gronk to this day. Belichick did that. He took a risk on a guy with a ridiculous injury history and he became the greatest player at his position in history.

Yes, Brady won in Tampa. He’s the greatest QB ever and he went to a very talented team and helped to bring in some other key talented players. That was a winning formula.

Meanwhile after only 1 year of missing the playoffs, BB competed for the division during a big part of the year in 2021 and made the playoffs with a rookie QB. Pretty amazing. And when you compare the Tampa roster with the NE roster, are there any players on the NE offense that would have made the Tampa roster at the start of the season? Maybe one or two if any.

Belichick is incredible and so is Brady. Counting wins and losses and Super Bowls doesn’t do either of them justice, or the many great players that that have been around them.

Gianta had top 10 offense in 1986 with a RB of 1500 yards.

In 1990 season playoff, Parcel’s offense played 39 minutes against 49ers in NFCCG and 40 plus minutes against Bills in SB.

Consider that Parcel gave Belichick everything a DC could ask for, please why Belichick deserves so much credita for Giants 2 SB.

Would he have won any of the SB without Brady?

The answer is ZERO. All you have to do is to check how many QB out of 14 QBs in last playoff were able to score 24 or more in back to back playoff games.

If Belichick left and Brady stayed the haters would claim it was all Belichick and the Patriots success is over.

Except for the hoodie and looking like a clone of Bill.

I love how people keep referencing Denver. Josh had total control over the Broncos roster. Ziegler has final say over the roster in Vegas. McDaniels coaches and Ziegler picks the roster. These two situations are not the same.

GoodellMustGo says: May 27, 2022 at 1:47 pm I’ll laugh if McDaniels gets Kaepernick signed and plays.

Same McDaniels that drafted Tebow in the first round so if anyone would do that it’s him. Lol ————————————————————————————————————— He also drafted Demetrius Thomas in the 1st round before Tebow. You remember Thomas, he would go on to rush for over 1,300 yards for four consecutive seasons.

bullcharger says: May 27, 2022 at 2:35 pm buffalobluecollarlunchbucket56 says: May 27, 2022 at 2:09 pm zandrew says: May 27, 2022 at 1:48 pm This argument of Belichick needing Brady is way overdone. The first 3 Super Bowls the Patriot’s won Brady was not the polished Brady of recent years. And Belichick taught and met extensively with Brady every week to mold him into the winning QB he became. ————————- Brady has won everywhere he’s played including a Superbowl without B.B. Bill, not so much.

————— Belichick won two Super Bowls with the Giants as a DC. His game plan for the game against the Bills is in the HOF. As a head coach he built a staff that became the Ravens, a team that was competing at the highest level for 20 years. BB was responsible for a trade down that became the Ray Lewis pick.

Yes, Belichick lost some games in Cleveland, but he really built a great foundation that continued for a long time.

In 2000 when he came to NE he did the same thing.

Would he have won any of the Super Bowls without Brady? Who knows. It obviously is very important to have an elite QB to win even 1 Super Bowl and to win many you have to have the very best QB. Brady was an essential part. However, so were the other 52 guys. Brady would not be Brady without Drafting Gronk and developing Edeleman for example. Brady is still with Gronk to this day. Belichick did that. He took a risk on a guy with a ridiculous injury history and he became the greatest player at his position in history.

Yes, Brady won in Tampa. He’s the greatest QB ever and he went to a very talented team and helped to bring in some other key talented players. That was a winning formula.

Meanwhile after only 1 year of missing the playoffs, BB competed for the division during a big part of the year in 2021 and made the playoffs with a rookie QB. Pretty amazing. And when you compare the Tampa roster with the NE roster, are there any players on the NE offense that would have made the Tampa roster at the start of the season? Maybe one or two if any.

Belichick is incredible and so is Brady. Counting wins and losses and Super Bowls doesn’t do either of them justice, or the many great players that that have been around them.

You make some good points about Belechick’s accomplishments that would sound impressive for him in a job interview for a head coaching position. Giving Belechick credit while coaching under Bill Parcells is a bit of a stretch. Giving him credit for trading up or down is usually the job of G.M. The Bills went to four straight Superbowls under Marv Levi but I don’t remember who the coordinators were. Does Eric Bieniemy get credit for Mahomes’s and K.C’s success? Brian Daboll for Josh Allen’s success? Daboll’s now on the clock with the Giants. Belechick’s on the clock without Brady.

Just a little education for the uninformed:

Belichick coached defenses in the 1986 and 1990 SBowl wins: Giants 49 SF 3 Giants 17 Wash 0 Giants 39 Denver 20 Giants 31 Bears 3 Giants 15 @49ers 13. 49ers had the #2 offense in the NFL. Giants 20 Bills 19. The Giants won with their backup QB. 2 of the Bills points were from a safety. Bills had the #1 offense in the NFL. The K-Gun was a hurry up, no huddle offense, which did not help TOP. Giants forced the Bills to punt 6x.

This is why Belichick is a defensive genius and the game plan is in the HOF. He cemented that reputation during the Pats 20 year dynasty. Hope that helps.

Is there a more meaningless point in the history of the universe than scoring 24 points in back to back playoff games?

tedmurph says: May 27, 2022 at 5:13 pm Just a little education for the uninformed:

Belichick coached defenses in the 1986 and 1990 SBowl wins: Giants 49 SF 3 Giants 17 Wash 0 Giants 39 Denver 20 Giants 31 Bears 3 Giants 15 @49ers 13. 49ers had the #2 offense in the NFL. Giants 20 Bills 19. The Giants won with their backup QB. 2 of the Bills points were from a safety. Bills had the #1 offense in the NFL. The K-Gun was a hurry up, no huddle offense, which did not help TOP. Giants forced the Bills to punt 6x.

This is why Belichick is a defensive genius and the game plan is in the HOF. He cemented that reputation during the Pats 20 year dynasty. Hope that helps. ———————– Game plan in the Hall of Fame? I need to go to Canton to see that for myself. As I recall the game plan that was successful against the Bills was to run the football, use up the clock and keep the K-gun off the field. It was effective because the Bills defense couldn’t stop the run. Can’t remember the Giant’s running back but he out gained HOFer Thurman Thomas.

Giving Belechick credit while coaching under Bill Parcells is a bit of a stretch —— Is it?

Parcells is literally a losing coach without Belichick on his staff. He is below .500 as a head coach without Belichick.

In other words take Belichick away from Tuna’s career and you’re left with a poor man’s Dave Wannstedt. Truth hurts 🙂

Yeah, Bill’s defensive gameplan is in the HOF. It says, “play LT”. It’s much like his Pats ganeplans that said, “play Brady”, lol.

It was effective because the Bills defense couldn’t stop the run. —- Not sure if you mean just the game or that season. The 1990 Bills were close to a top 5 run defense in yards allowed per rush that season. They didn’t have the best run defense in the league but it was still good.

It wasn’t that unusual that those Giants slowed down the Bills like they did. I think I recall they did the same thing to Joe Montana and Jerry Rice in the NFCCG.

Umm, Bill Belichick made Tom Brady.

For those of you in diapers in 2001, crack an NFL history book.

Game plan in the Hall of Fame? I need to go to Canton to see that for myself.

No need, just Google it. The Giants RB was Otis Anderson. The Giants were begging the Bills to run the FB. Belichick famously said that if TThomas ran for over 100 yrds, we win.

Bill Parcells is a bona fide NFL HOFer. Well deserved. He took many teams out of the scrap heap, and made them contenders. This dumb game about losing records without this or that great player is just that: DUMB. Parcells was .500 for the Pats. When he got there they were a laughingstock. When he left, they were in the Super Bowl.

He also drafted Demetrius Thomas in the 1st round before Tebow. You remember Thomas, he would go on to rush for over 1,300 yards for four consecutive seasons. —— That’s not really a reason to pick Tebow in the first round. Just saying if he did something like that already then who knows.

touchback6 says: May 27, 2022 at 5:46 pm

Umm, Bill Belichick made Tom Brady.

For those of you in diapers in 2001, crack an NFL history book.

You have it backwards. BB was a failure until he lucked out drafting the GOAT, and he’s been mediocre since he left. That’s what the history books say.

Someone needs to be educated about how to think:

In NFL, it is not hard to build a good offense with a good QB and spending a lot of resources on offense; it is not hard to build a good defense if the team spends a lot on defense. What is hard is to build BOTH good offense and good defense, SOMETHING BELICHICK WAS NEVER ABLE TO DO, the reason he couldn’t even win division without Brady.

Given how much resources he had in Giants, given how much he spent on defense when with Patriots, especially before 2007, the performance of his defense was pathetic, especially in playoff.

Parcells was .500 for the Pats. When he got there they were a laughingstock. —— He also had two losing seasons out of four with the team. That along with the .500 record as I’ve argued before are reasons to keep him out of the Patriots Hall of fame.

I think the idea that Tuna joined the team when the Patriots were a laughingstock is way overstated. Parcells wasn’t starting from zero. He did have the benefit of starting his tenure with the first overall pick of the draft. And the Patriots hadn’t fallen on hard times for that long…it was only a few years prior that they were in the Super Bowl. Fairbanks by comparison did start from nothing and built a contender.

I do give credit to Tuna for building the foundation that let BB take over with a team on the rise and I think this is what BB has in mind too for his successor.

Belichick had very little to do with making TBrady. Brady’s competitiveness, will to win and overall desire to prove himself with that chip on his shoulder is what made Brady. Belichick left the decision of who to draft in that spot to the late Dick Reibein. Coaching by Weis, McDaniels and others, as well as mechanics by THouse contributed way more to Brady’s development than BB. Belichick coached Brady hard, which was fine when he was young, but ultimately contributed to Brady having enough and wanting out. Belichick dropped the ball when he wouldn’t treat Brady like a veteran in the later years.

Do those of in diaper in 2001,

Are you talking about yourself?

Go watch the SB ; Rams put on 6+ minutes drive at beginning, punted the ball and pinned Patriots at own 3 yards line. If you were not in diaper, tell us what was in your mind at that moment, honestly, dare you?

Watch the play, figure out why Rams defender was one step too late to tackle Troy Brown for easy 1st down, because that was how Brady turned Patriots around, which had nothing to do with Belichick (otherwise you should have seen similar plays by all other Patriots QB).

Bill drafts and coaches up Chad Pennington or Marc Bulger instead if Tommy and the outcome is the same. There’s no reason to think otherwise.

Well except the cheating part only Brady did that.

Not really leaning one way or another. But just wondering, would anyone actually have put that game plan in the hall of fame or remembered it if Norwood doesn’t miss a chip Shot in the end?

I love reading the fan club begging me to respect their hero Tommy 😂

Nope. I don’t respect cheaters.

The Pats weren’t a laughingstock when Parcells arrived? How do you think they got the #1 pick? By going 2-14 the year before. The team changed ownership 3x. It was a mess. They did start from scratch. At least Parcells had the acumen to take Bledsoe instead of RMirer. It was a big controversy then.

Pats fans that don’t want Parcells in the HOF make the excuse it’s the .500 record. No. They feel jilted about the way Parcells left. Well Kraft drove Parcells out. He was an inexperienced owner that wanted to divide the power(which he later gave to BB when he wised up). Then he let BGrier pick the players, who knows less about FB than I do.

Parcells helped save this franchise. They were headed for St Louis. HOF all day.

tedmurph says: May 27, 2022 at 6:12 pm Belichick had very little to do with making TBrady. Brady’s competitiveness, will to win and overall desire to prove himself with that chip on his shoulder is what made Brady. Belichick left the decision of who to draft in that spot to the late Dick Reibein. Coaching by Weis, McDaniels and others, as well as mechanics by THouse contributed way more to Brady’s development than BB. Belichick coached Brady hard, which was fine when he was young, but ultimately contributed to Brady having enough and wanting out. Belichick dropped the ball when he wouldn’t treat Brady like a veteran in the later years.

Laughable. He drafted Brady. He worked with him personally and daily. All the qbs who got this treatment all have had positive success. You act like Brady was Gretzky or Jordan.

He sent Rhebein on 2 visits. Rheiben worked for BB. Rehbein absolutely did not run BBs draft board. Ludicrous statement.

Brady’s style of play is what BB had been looking for since 1991. It was in his scouting report and he liked what he saw and the reports Rhebein had . lol

I can always tell who has a career in business and who doesn’t here.

Who do you think told Brady about how to read defenses, giving him the answers to the test? It wasn’t Dick Rhebein. Dick Rhebein died in the summer of 2001.

If Brady was so great and knew more than BB, why did he go in the 6th rd and why weren’t his stats better than they were almost right away?

Did you know the reason why Brady took less money than he could have earned? He was fearful he’d be dealt away to a worse environment. Even Brady knew how has bread was buttered.

BB made Brady, helped start JimmyGs career and he’ll make Mac Jones, too.

Real Pats fans are thrilled we are primadonna-free in NE and have a franchise QB for a decade as Brady selfishly makes a documentary a week about himself in his last year before leaving TB in a wake of destruction for years to come.

I couldn’t be more thrilled watching Mac outperform Brady last October knowing who made who.

I don’t give a hoot who respects Brady. I just consider them deranged when they don’t. Notice these types always go to cheating when they can’t make a cogent argument with facts. Meaningless

The Pats weren’t a laughingstock when Parcells arrived? How do you think they got the #1 pick? By going 2-14 the year before. The team changed ownership 3x. It was a mess. They did start from scratch. At least Parcells had the acumen to take Bledsoe instead of RMirer. It was a big controversy then.

Pats fans that don’t want Parcells in the HOF make the excuse it’s the .500 record. No. They feel jilted about the way Parcells left. Well Kraft drove Parcells out. He was an inexperienced owner that wanted to divide the power(which he later gave to BB when he wised up). Then he let BGrier pick the players, who —-

The .500 record matters a lot. That’s 8 wins a season even with the benefit of having one of the best pure passers in the league which Drew was run your offensr. I don’t think a coach that averages 8 wins a season did anything that notable. Even Carroll was better than that and nobody says Pete should be a Patriot HOFer.

And no the franchise was not buried and dead for many years they were in the Super Bowl only a few years prior. Look at Tuna and look at Fairbanks and you tell me who really resurrected the franchise at the time when each got a chance.

Also don’t forget how Tuna after he left actively tried to undermine the franchise- stealing Martin with a now banned poison pill contract and pretending he was only a Jets consultant so the Patriots would get no compensation. It wasn’t just the way he bailed on the team before the Super Bowl and that was bad too. In fact that was one of the worst coaching jobs I’ve ever seen in a Super Bowl. It’s almost like he meant it that way after the fallout with Kraft….🤔🚩

I don’t think anyone is saying Tuna should not be in Canton. The pro football HOF absolutely he deserves to be in. Patriots HOF…no way.

The .500 record matters a lot +++++++++++

Ha, without Brady’s coaching Pats QB, Belichick’s record will be worse when he is fired.

tedmurph says: May 27, 2022 at 7:00 pm I don’t give a hoot who respects Brady. I just consider them deranged when they don’t. Notice these types always go to cheating when they can’t make a cogent argument with facts. Meaningless —— The facts are what the text messages said they are. Quite clearly. And that’s disappointing. Imagine being someone who cheered for Tom all these years like me… only to find out that everything that the haters said about him was true. That hurts.

So you figured that out after the Denver job?

Jimmypinthe416 says: May 27, 2022 at 6:38 pm Not really leaning one way or another. But just wondering, would anyone actually have put that game plan in the hall of fame or remembered it if Norwood doesn’t miss a chip Shot in the end? —— No.

What actually happened in the 2000 draft is that Grier and his staff were torn between 2 QBs in the 6th rnd. Despite already having 3 QBs on the roster, they had 2 rated about even. That was Brady and Tim Rattay. Because Belichick was hired at the end of January, they mostly used Grier’s draft board. AKlemm, etc. BB did NOT make that pick. The staff did, on the glowing recommendation of the late DRheibein.

Belichick did NOT meet with Brady every day. It was once a week. Weis and McDaniels deserve more credit.

Again, it wasn’t BB that had the biggest hand in developing Brady.

I don’t think Brady cares about the opinions of a person who likes EVERY of his own posts.

I agree with what Josh is trying to say. Patricia was the same and he wore out his welcome in Detroit. Judge to a lesser extent but he was just a bad HC. Even Bill himself in Cleveland before he had any success to let him get away with it… he too wore out his welcome.

I think Josh recognizes that now so we’ll see what happens. He also did some pretty stupid things in Denver like drafting Tebow and taping another team’s practice. I would think he’s a much better coach now just like when Bill arrived in NE compared to his Browns days.

Ambiguous text messages in the offseason(March or May) 1 time. A celebrity smashing a used cell after several leaks and offering the NFL full transcripts, which they refused. No drop off in play afterwards. Actually better. This wasn’t about Brady cheating, it became about Goodell retaining his power to punish anyone as he saw fit. Anyone naive enough to believe Brady cheated, go ahead. Amuses me, but doesn’t bother me. 7 rings

Ambiguous text messages in the offseason(March or May) 1 time. —-/ “The only thing deflating sun… will be his passer rating” “Jimmy needs some kicks… come on help the deflator”

I don’t think there’s anything ambiguous about those texts at all…they’re quite clear to me. Except maybe only those in denial that Tommy cheated and lied to cover it up.

None of the people here who claim someone developed Brady have any clue why Brady needed his receivers at exact spots at exact times (and how a coach “developed” this).

I don’t think they can even name a play that this was crucial in Pats offense under Brady.

8 wins average for Parcells? Not even close to the point. It’s the progression. From 2-14 to the SBowl. Carroll trended the other way. Besides being a fish out of water on the East Coast, Grier was still picking the players.

Yeah, Pats made the SBowl in ’85 and got killed. 2 days later a huge drug scandal came out and they went into a black hole.

Like Fairbanks, but mad at Parcells? Fairbanks signed with Colorado and began recruiting before the Pats 1rst playoff game. Seriously?

Poison pills were within the rules at the time. Why shouldn’t Parcells take advantage? To be a nice guy? Other teams did it too. Hutchinson for one.

tedmurph says: May 27, 2022 at 7:34 pm What actually happened in the 2000 draft is that Grier and his staff were torn between 2 QBs in the 6th rnd. Despite already having 3 QBs on the roster, they had 2 rated about even. That was Brady and Tim Rattay. Because Belichick was hired at the end of January, they mostly used Grier’s draft board. AKlemm, etc. BB did NOT make that pick. The staff did, on the glowing recommendation of the late DRheibein.

Belichick did NOT meet with Brady every day. It was once a week. Weis and McDaniels deserve more credit.

Again, it wasn’t BB that had the biggest hand in developing Brady.

There is no way on earth BB wanted to leave the Jets partially due to need of full GM control, yet he conceded that control to moron Grier who signed previous horrible deals BB inherited and players like Chris Canty and numerous other horrible draft picks. You honestly believe that?

Look, I get your creepy man lust for metrosexual Brady goes real deep, but there is no way BB deferred to Grier at the start of his career in NE.

You people have an illness.

The facts are what the text messages said they are. Quite clearly. And that’s disappointing. Imagine being someone who cheered for Tom all these years like me… only to find out that everything that the haters said about him was true. That hurts.

Please stop trying to pass yourself off as a Patriots fan. You’re as bad as patsfan4lifedynasty or whatever his name is.

Deflator texts in the offseason when the Pats wouldn’t play a real FB game for 6 months. By morons that called themselves Dorito Dinks. Great way to make a point.

If the supposed cheating was stopped, how can it be explained that Brady got even better, and won more Super Bowl? Including the same year. The whole thing was a bag job, and the NFL got caught. Anyone seen thebair pressure numbers yet?

BB’s record against teams over .500 since Brady left? 5-13!

Belichick did not cede anything to Grier. Grier was forced out after the 2000 draft, a few months after BB was hired.

Now go put on your Belichick onesie and have mommy tuck you in. It’s Celtics time.

tedmurph says: May 27, 2022 at 8:29 pm Deflator texts in the offseason when the Pats wouldn’t play a real FB game for 6 months. By morons that called themselves Dorito Dinks. Great way to make a point.

If the supposed cheating was stopped, how can it be explained that Brady got even better, and won more Super Bowl? Including the same year. The whole thing was a bag job, and the NFL got caught. Anyone seen thebair pressure numbers yet? —— You could’ve just saved yourself the typing time and admitted you can’t explain those texts. That’s understandable because there is no explanation that makes Tommy look good. He had a scheme in place to illegally deflate footballs. It happened. The texts say all that needs to be said. Anything he did or didn’t do after that is irrelevant. I agree he probably didn’t need to cheat but you could say that about every single sports cheater. Lance Armstrong was great. So was Barry Bonds.

The league making a mess proving their case doesn’t change a thing. Prosecutors mess up their case in court all the time and the guilty get to walk free. Doesn’t mean they’re innocent.

And I’d still love to hear an explanation from a Tommy apologist why the NFL would punish the face of the league – it’s arguably most popular player on its most premier franchise and try to hit him and his legacy with a cheating scandal for no good reason putting into question a bunch of Super Bowls for the laughs? Why would the league do that to themselves? What would they possibly have to gain by making the whole thing up?

I’m afraid there are no good answers to this question for the Tommy apologists. 🙁

tedmurph says: May 27, 2022 at 8:42 pm Belichick did not cede anything to Grier. Grier was forced out after the 2000 draft, a few months after BB was hired.

Now go put on your Belichick onesie and have mommy tuck you in. It’s Celtics time.

Sounds good, little Millennial. I was going to games long before you were born.

As I look at my framed ‘96 afc title game ticket from Jan 12, 1997.

When BB makes Mac Jones, you’ll look like a fool in your Brady underoos and a library full of creepy Brady docs as an adult.

Last October told us who made who.

Belichick believers love to bury their heads in sands.

gimmeabruschi says: May 27, 2022 at 8:34 pm BB’s record against teams over .500 since Brady left? 5-13! — Tom Brady’s career passer rating against Belichick: 70.

Inferior to Hoyer and Tebow’s career ratings against Bill.

Huh. Isn’t Brady supposed to be good? 😂

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